nuyorica
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Re: SHAM ARMY and OTHER GANGS
good one oxo,some of the thing's you read from casual's is that they where the only cult going and every thing stop after 1981,
put i can recall around 1984 there was still
mods,scooter boys,punks,rockabillys and other tribes.
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11/Mar/05, 10:50 am
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Re: SHAM ARMY and OTHER GANGS
the sham army newcastle division (SAND)to give it its full title started about 1978 out of several gangs in west newcastle like the Elswick Mafia, Bobby Shafto aggro boys and the Fenham Sham.
There was quite a few of them,people like Karva,pottsy,sager,dingle,steda,bulger,chink,matches,gorney,wardy.
they hung around clubs like young tiffnys,the west end youth club and their main rivals were Long benton clockwork and the Wild Bunch from West Denton who they detested with a vengence because they blamed them for the death of Tony Livingston who was ran over by a bus during a gang fight in 1981.
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23/Apr/06, 8:13 pm
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nuyorica
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Nice Post neilo2 what where the years these gangs where out like 1978-1983 would you say.
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24/Apr/06, 10:00 am
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by 1983 the gang scene had really died off apart from the the last bus on fri/sat night the 65/64 back to west denton and the 88 back to newbiggin hall but the police started escorting them.
79-82 were peak years for the real gangs,wannabes like service crew,nme and gremlins were a bit of a joke and were more football orientated and were not a patch on the original football gangs like The Bender Squad or Long Benton Clockwork who dominated the leazes end by numbers alone.
Other gangs at the time North Kenton Hatchet,newbiggen hall ab fought constantly
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24/Apr/06, 3:49 pm
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werent Jimmy Nail in the Bender squad I seem to remember ...........
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24/Apr/06, 4:08 pm
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nuyorica
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But there still alot of Skins and punks around the north east in 1983 was there
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24/Apr/06, 4:59 pm
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by 83 punk was well finished. the real punks had turned into either skins or smoothies by 81 then into casuals by 82 thru to 88 then we discovered mdma and festivals then thailand.
By 81-82 adam and the ants,sid vicious,the exploited,gbh,discharge etc had made punk a total joke.
dressing like a skin by this time made going out difficult no tatoos or boots etc and it was viewed as a bit dated, we were wearing our hair in the wedge style by 82,also it wasnt really a big hit with the girls,going glue sniffing before a clash concert isnt exactly romantic.
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24/Apr/06, 9:17 pm
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nuyorica
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But there was still(not a good thing)a load of council estate glue sniffings Punks and Boneheads about i thought.
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25/Apr/06, 7:51 am
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nah punks,glue and skins were proper old hat by 83.
you still had the remnants,but over the winter of 82 drink,clubbing and the town took over.
you have to remember that the gang members were roughly the same age (between 15 and 18)and like all crazes it died.
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25/Apr/06, 8:32 pm
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So it was left to the Mods to fly the flag back then.There was a number of Skins/Punks who didn't die but just became Pschyobillys.
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26/Apr/06, 1:35 pm
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