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Alex,

It depends what you mean by a 'gang' ... When younger, I always enjoyed the fact that there were other people (my mates) who were into the same thing as I. We weren't a gang really and were rarely involved in violence. On the rare occasions it occured it was unavoidable and we didn't started it.
It got out of hand as we grew older and violence crept in, but then our friendship ended.

It was always nice to draw enthusiasm from your friends and it gave a sense of unity.

I know it's hard to explain, but it wasn't tribalism. Now everyone went on its own way, some of them I still see but some, I've lost sight since the late 80's (and some I hope I'll never meet again emoticon ).

I would really love to see a scene grow again - even if it's to stay outside of it.

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The sense of belonging you mean I found in my bands, a positive 'gang' if you like.
There was plenty of belonging at the football but at the end of the day I could never take that as seriously as being [sign in to see URL].
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Alex,

I didn't mean creativity (I played in various bands myself - published 3 fanzines and ran at least 4 or 5 different clubs during the 80's and 90's) ... but close like-minded friends as a sort of incentive. You know, sometimes I'm soooooo lazy these days and really need a kick in the ... OK OK, I know I'll find volunteers. emoticon

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I see what you mean JM, and did so in the first place really. Unfortunately none of my mates at the time were into Mod at all. Our common bond was the Punk thing, so when that sort of died down some of us decided to take the energy/original spirit of '77 with us into those bands.
It was only in the late 90s I found out about the Utrecht scene. I don't regret having missed out on the revival tho' as you know that was never my thing anyway.
And it's never too late as they say.... the good thing 'bout the www as for finding likeminded souls of which there are more than I thought. Not many mind, but enough to make it worth my while on-line. I did find out about a lot of great stuff. Thanks to you, among others, my R&R days are most definitely over...... emoticon
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Mod, like anything, can be interpeted and understood at either it's most basic level (badges on a jacket, Who box set, target logo), or as a more subtle/complex approach to style and culture. The latter is more demanding, and ultimately more rewarding, probably, since it's a lifelong attitide as opposed to a teenage fad.

 



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Mod, like anything, can be interpeted and understood at either it's most basic level (badges on a jacket, Who box set, target logo), or as a more subtle/complex approach to style and culture. The latter is more demanding, and ultimately more rewarding, probably, since it's a lifelong attitide as opposed to a teenage fad.

Whaddo I know? I'm no expert... emoticon



This approach also attracts accusations of 'elitism', although I see it more as a process of elimination and refined selectivity.
Kids aren't naturally inclined to think that way, though, preferring to latch onto the most obvious symbols of their chosen cult. They don't realise that being elusive & exclusive in your taste and attitude helps to secure your place as part of an alternative which cannot be branded.

More often than not this approach, this attitude, is inherent in a person, rather than bought off the peg from the Cultural Supermarket.

I don't pretend to speak for mods, of course... emoticon

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 because we led everything, the first yoof movement ever to open the door for you others to pour through. the adults didn't know what hit them.




aitch, I think the Teds were the first 'yoof' movement in the UK. They freaked the adults out, especially the DA hairstyles and Edwardian suits.


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the time when the origonal mods started can't be re created. each group of mods or modernists had their own ways. it's not a coincidence that the mods started about 15 - 16 years after the 2nd world war ended. the kids that were born after the war had more freedom that their parents had as kids. i guess our folks decided after seeing the horrors of war to let us have a better life and maybe we came out of that freedom that they allowed us. loads of decent paying jobs for kids out of school, some as young as 15. this was the first time that the young working class had money and they weren't shy about spending it. advertising, tv. etc soon caught on, money to spend [sign in to see URL] of looking like younger versions of their mums and dads. they could be themselves and a group of us somehow became mods. when you are at the bottom of the social scale there are not many ways you can rise above the average and being at the forfront of fashion, music,etc. was just a way of doing this and feeling good. one thing you will find is that when a new fashion starts, it starts on the street through the kids and then it is exploited by the fashion biz. when that happens it's over and it's time to find new grooves. this movement seemed to hit the right spots for a lot of young people and off it went. but it was constantly evolving. weird though it seems, even though i'm a bit old for all this, i still feel a 1959 - 1964 [sign in to see URL] will do me. man, that's [sign in to see URL] kill me now





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you are right re. the teds / teddy boys. they smashed the cinemas to bits when they watched movies like "rock around the clock"

the mods came along as a better looking more together version of a youth movement

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re. the rockers /teds / teddy boys

they were before mods and they were [sign in to see URL] the suede crepe sole shoes, drainpipes, draped jackets, string ties or slim jims. d.a = ducks arses, motor bikes. man they were ugly. rolled collar lapels and jackets down to their knees. wee willie harris, cliff richard, marty wilde, cuddly dudley, joe brown
they became our mortal enemy. most of them came from the outskirts of towns. the kids who lived in the centre of towns were usually of the mod persuasion. that's how come we used to bump into them at bank holidays on the coast. bank holidays was the traditional time for working class people to go down to brighton, margate etc. i guess you've seen the pictures. you don't see a good riot anymore like we used to have in the old days. you'd probably get killed by the bill doing the thing we used to do now.



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