nuyorica
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cheers simpa,scooter stu and blocky 1964 great stuff.sorry to ask so many ques but it's good getting first hand material.
blocky did the ICF follow any music scenes in the mid 80's,got the hooligan dvd and must saythere was only a few sharp casuals
in it and the mullets where noticed(god a used to have a chrissy waddle perm :vomiting
simpa around 1979 or 1980 remember going to eldon square and just seeing lots of skins,punks and the odd parka.it seems mod wasn't a fad in the north east
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quote: nuyorica wrote:
simpa around 1979 or 1980 remember going to eldon square and just seeing lots of skins,punks and the odd parka.it seems mod wasn't a fad in the north east
I remember my mates & I being chased through Eldon square on quite a few occasions.
We even used the multi storey carpark as an escape route a few times.
Instead of using the stairwell where we could be trapped & get a right kicking or running down the exit ramps we used to lower ourselves from level to level down the middle often bouncing on car bonnets or boots.Getting shouted at by irrate car owners was a lot less painful than making contact with a Doc Martin Boot.
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most of the real icf got into the rave scene mate, basically because there was money to be made(flogging banned substances and ripping off the ravers), personally, i just couldn't really get to grips with any music, and i stayed listening to my blues and soul roots throughout. unfortunately most of the places we went played disco shite, so muscally it wasn't a happy time for me. I never had anything other than a short haircut, although i did let it grow longer up top...but there were a lot of perms about!!!
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nuyorica
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it must of been a mad time in london between
the start of punk to the start of rave
i bet there was a lot of watching yer back
with being part of some youth cult or the football scene knowing where and where not to go.did you never get into the rare groove
scene which norman jay the d.j. started.
it seems alot of the mods got into the jazz
cum acid jazz scene.
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No mate, I've never really liked that stuff, it's all hammond orientated and I'm a guitar man myself....Don't mind hammond stuff but too much bores me.
To be honest, most of the time we were too busy fighting to worry about music.
Sad innit..
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i know some liked stuff like electro or bands
like echo & the bunnymen and new order,and of
course soul music but it wasn't the first choice of the casual.
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Nuyorica
The Rejects had a big ICF following for a while...with a mixture of mods, ex-skins, suedes and casuals!!! (The back of the first album has a few photos)...as Blocky said some moved into the rave business
Theres quite a few old posts on here with other details
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yer but oxo between the early 80's to the late 80's there must of been something going
on in london in the mid 80's,i mean certain era's mix into new era's i.e. punk to mod, mod to casual9 ).i think the good,the
bad and the 4-skins album you brought had a good photo on the inner sleeve where there seems to be a bunch of lads who some look like skins and others look like on the verge of casual(and that rockabilly guy).
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From my experience....its went from punk (76) to Skin (77) to mod (or suede for me!) in 78....stayed that way until about 84 when I went casual....lots of different routes really but the firm I was in went along that sort of porgression...some turned casual from about 80s onwards
The firm on the album cover were from Ealing, a mixture of ex-skins,mods,casuals and rockabillys (the Clack Brothers later became paras! )
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