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sergiox
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Re: Essay on Jam/Mod Song???
What I am saying, is that if Weller had come from a different background, you might well have interpreted those lyrics vastly differently. Interpretations, of I catch you correctly, by your criteria, are therefore impossible, but of course, they're not. But, you have to do your detective work. It is possible to interpret and analyse, that's how serial killers are caught mate, similar process.
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19/Nov/03, 7:41 am
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pxjedi
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Re: Essay on Jam/Mod Song???
you may well interprit wellers lyrics differntly if he'd come from a differnt back ground, still dont meen youd come up with the rite answer. only one man can truely give u that.
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19/Nov/03, 1:52 pm
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sergiox
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Who knows the answer to anything pxjedi, even scientists deal in philosophical postulations, for example, Valence, has never been proved, but they (chemists) firmly belief given the evidence they have that it exists, the same with Black Holes, and even the lack of evidence of there being a God, doesn't stop people from being Christians and beleiving in God. So, analysing and interpreting lyrics, books, poems is a legitimate philosophical exercise. I do stress, however, that all the background paraphenelia of the author is essential, and even a literary framework to work within, and, of course, you have the choice of many, from Phenomenology to Post-Structuralism, Marxism to Post-modernism. Must go back to the old theory books, you've got me interested again mate.
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19/Nov/03, 6:04 pm
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Re: Essay on Jam/Mod Song???
glad to be of service 
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19/Nov/03, 8:59 pm
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themodlunatic
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Re: Essay on Jam/Mod Song???
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sergiox wrote:
What I am saying, is that if Weller had come from a different background, you might well have interpreted those lyrics vastly differently. Interpretations, of I catch you correctly, by your criteria, are therefore impossible, but of course, they're not. But, you have to do your detective work. It is possible to interpret and analyse, that's how serial killers are caught mate, similar process.
EXACTLY!!! that's why I was afraid that i would misinterpret the song, not knowing what it was really about, and that's why i started this discussion, hoping some people, having been there at the time of the releases of the songs, could help me a bit!
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20/Nov/03, 6:08 am
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sergiox
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It's not abpout being there at the time Modlunatic, but knowing the background. Knowing the Woking background, the class background, his likes, dislikes, what shaped the man. You don't have to have lived at the time of Keats to make sense of his poetry, but you do have to know about the man. If that all makes sense.
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20/Nov/03, 7:03 am
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(drunken rant mkII) the woking background,the class background all seems relevent, but in the early 80s i used to drink in a boozer inhabited by mods & punks. the scruffeist nastiest punks youd ever like to meet. spouting anti capitolist statements,anacist to the core, to here them speak.then at the end of the night, some (alot) would jump into mummys bm to drive back to the family pile. just rebelling ?, probebly, but the fact remains we all aspiere to !@#$ we aint.so was weller realy feeling the affects of the down troden masses, or just wishin he was.the ali g thing realy exaggerates the point.what im tryin to say in a half arsed way is(ie obviously not as educated as yourself & pissed again), what u say aint necessarly what you are, just what u wanna be ie street cred.
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20/Nov/03, 11:45 pm
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It's not abpout being there at the time Modlunatic, but knowing the background. Knowing the Woking background, the class background, his likes, dislikes, what shaped the man. You don't have to have lived at the time of Keats to make sense of his poetry, but you do have to know about the man. If that all makes sense.
i know what's you're saying, that's true, but i just thought that, having been there at the time of the jam, one would have been exposed to more information about them. anyway, you all have good points. i guess i'll just do my best and see how it turns out (chances are my geography (yes, geography) teacher has never even heard of the jam). i think i've got funeral pyre pretty figure out...
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21/Nov/03, 12:08 am
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if all else fails, end your essay with. this is my opinion of the art & all art is subgective. imho how can u fail
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px uneducated twat.
good luck 
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21/Nov/03, 12:21 am
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sergiox
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Just remember to mention deconstructionism - no it's not about building bridges around the M25 - and make it sound as if you really know what you are talking about, nobody does, but those who are really good at it excel...ask my mate Cal
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